Pokemon Chat Report - Thursday, October 03, 2002
by Team Compendium (with special thanks to Lance313)


master_trainer_mike says, "Howdy gang!"
master_trainer_mike says, "How are you this fine Rainy Thursday?"
master_trainer_mike says, "(it's arining here in Seattle, go figure)"
master_trainer_mike says, "First allow me to pass along some good news."
master_trainer_mike says, "We finally got in our own Expedition product, so those of you that won prizes from the Theme Deck Challenges we held at Pokemon Worlds will have your prizes sent out over the next week."
master_trainer_mike says, "Our apologies that it took this long to get them out but the product sold so well we couldn't get our hands on any!!"
master_trainer_mike says, "Also, here is a rules clarification about Expedition."
master_trainer_mike says, "There are a few Poke-POWERS that were not correctly translated and templated."
master_trainer_mike says, "Specifically the Feraligatr and its Major Tsunami power SHOULD have said "you may" in it."
master_trainer_mike says, "So please play this power and any others that seems similar (meaning you shoudl normally have the option to use instead of having to use) as if it included "you may""
master_trainer_mike says, "The Light Arcanine from Neo Destiny is another power that should have had "you may" also included"
master_trainer_mike says, "So, on to the few questions we have so far."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #3 from lord_schweizer:a while ago you said that there are some cards in LC that have different attacks to the original ones...which cards have changed?
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry but we don;t have a list like that. It's more that some attacks were clarified."
master_trainer_pat says, "For example Arcanine's attack is worded differently"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #4 from lord_schweizer:do you know when the next pokémon games are coming out? do you know what they will be called?
master_trainer_mike says, "They are called Ruby and Sapphire for the Game Boy Advance."
master_trainer_mike says, "I read about them in EGM. It looks like you can fight with 2 Pokemon at once (kid of like our Team Multiplay format)"
master_trainer_mike says, "I heard a November release for Japan. No idea for anywhere else."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #5 from daytongl:Any new news on BattleZone?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nope."
master_trainer_mike says, "Here's the deal gang."
master_trainer_mike says, "We are currently going through lincesnor/contract discussions AND our own internal budget process."
master_trainer_mike says, "I'm sorry that we don;t have more specific information to give you. The MOMENT we know anything is a sure thing, we will let you know on the boards, throogh the chat, the Professor list, and the web site."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #6 from michel1be:Are there news about the official release of Expedition in Europe ?
master_trainer_pat says, "We are still hard at work try to find a solution. We're still in discussions to try to make a release happen in Europe."
master_trainer_mike says, "Same sort of answer."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #7 from mrmisdreavus545:Is there a clarification on the supporters as i have heard 3 different rulings of when u can USE the card?
master_trainer_mike says, "You can play 1 supporter at any point during your turn (before your attack)."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #8 from bigchuck001:Anything on Battlezone and the Gym Challenges?

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #9 from marril2000:hey mike, any details on how Professors will be able to order the BattleZone preview to help stores get into the idea yet? i am still having trubble convincing one store to even have a league @_@

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #10 from gym_leader_blaine:when should we start seeing information on Pokemon BattleZone. I would like to start to get some of the stores in the area pumped up for it
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry guys, these are the exact sorts of questions we are talking about. A lot of people are working very hard to clarify contract negotiations and budget issues."
master_trainer_mike says, "Until these things are resolved, nothing can move forward."
master_trainer_mike says, "We have hopes to have answers for you soon."
master_trainer_mike says, "Wish I had better info but keep an eye on our web site and boards."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #11 from lord_schweizer:with the attacks that were clarified...was it just the name that was reworded...or is the outcome of some attacks different?...can you give me one example?
master_trainer_pat says, "The big change is that the wording was clarified. For instance, Charizard's Fire Spin used to say 'in order to do this attack' now it says 'discard 2 Energy cards attached to Charizard or this attack does nothing'"
master_trainer_pat says, "This makes it so that you can't Metronome this attack as easily as before."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #13 from lugiasforce87:Any news on Aquapolis?
master_trainer_pat says, "Nothing to say about it yet."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #14 from lord_schweizer:"They are callled..." - are they out already? if so, do you know when they will be released in australia? and is this the game with the next 100 pokémon?
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry guys, that is all Nintendo info. I just read it in a mag."
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes it is the one with the 100 new Pokemon."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #15 from mysterioustrainer:MTM I kind missed the start (chat troubles), so did I miss any announcements besides the fact you guys got the Expedition for the Theme Deck winners at worlds? (Doubt there is anything new)
master_trainer_pat says, "That was the only announcement"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #16 from bigchuck001:A few Strength Charm questions. If you Zaaap with a charm, does it do 30 to everything with powers? Also, if you us Kingdras Mud Splash and flip heads, would it do 40 and 20 to a benched pokemon?
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes and yes."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #17 from michel1be:You said that DCI rules could be changed and allow a set in sanctioned tournaments as soon as the set is available in one country (like Expedition allowed in sanctioned tournaments in Europe now as it is released in the USA. Any news about that ?
master_trainer_mike says, "Once again. This is under discussion and we do not have anything to day yet. We are working on trying to get Expedition released in Europe but it is still in the works."
master_trainer_mike says, "At this time, Expedition is not tournament legal in Europe as it has not been released there yet."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #18 from monkeyman8889:WHEN ARE THE GCS? ITS OCTOBER COME ON :P
master_trainer_mike says, "Ok gang, one LAST time."
master_trainer_mike says, "We CANNOT move forward on ANYTHING in Pokemon until contract and budget negotiations are completed. They have been underway for some time now."
master_trainer_mike says, "Once WE know, you will know, k?"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #19 from bigchuck001:Do you think that the new Vileplume may be a little overpowered in team?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, there is alot more consistent bench manipulation now also, like switch and Warp Point. It would be fun to build a Team Deck with it though"
master_trainer_mike says, "Can still powers off with Muk, use Miracle Berry, play with the new Butterfree, Warp POint , Switch"
master_trainer_mike says, "and so on"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #20 from monkeyman8889:Why is it that you cant move a damage counter from one of your opponents pokemon to another with the new gengars power?
master_trainer_mike says, "You can."
master_trainer_mike says, "You can't move a counter between players (this affects team play)"
master_trainer_mike says, "but you can move 1 counter between your Pokemon OR between your opponent's (as long as they have 3 prizes or less left)."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #21 from bigchuck001:In team, could you always use the new Gengars pokemon power since the opponent will always have 3 or less prizes?
master_trainer_mike says, "Actually, in this case you count the team total."
master_trainer_mike says, "So in constructed they start with 5, and in limited they start with 4."
master_trainer_mike says, "But it would work quicker wouldn't it?"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #22 from mysteriouswing:Since their is no indo on battlezone, do you know what we will be doing in league after the coroless season tounrement?
master_trainer_mike says, "BattleZone is the next planned thing. Its in the owrks."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #23 from steelixownzu:If igglybuff is on your bench, and you gaze Promo Snorlax on the opponents bench, and you double gust up the snorlax, is its power still off? Can you retreat?
master_trainer_pat says, "No and no."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #24 from lord_schweizer:is the game currently out?
master_trainer_mike says, "Ask Nintendo about Nintedno questions guys."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #25 from mrmisdreavus545:I meant like when do u do what the supporter card says, before your attack, at the end of your turn ?
master_trainer_mike says, "You play the effect immediatley just as playing ANY trainer. You have to leave the supporter out though to indicate that you already played one this turn."
master_trainer_mike says, "At the end of the turn you discard it but you would have used its effect when you actaully played it from your hand."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #26 from marril2000:its raining over there? in nh is just very cloudy... oh and don't forget to say happy birthday to ech ;)
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes."
master_trainer_pat says, "and Happy Birthday to Ech ;)"
master_trainer_pat nods solemnly.
master_trainer_mike says, "Happy Birthday Ech! I saw that on the Zeo site. What is he 40?"
master_trainer_mike says, "hee hee"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #27 from ikendall:Expedition Alakazam Psymimics Genetic Memory from Kingdra - does it get to use Abra's/Kadabra's attacks? Or Horsea's/Seadra's? Or nothing?
master_trainer_pat says, "You can use Abra or Kadabra's attacks"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #28 from bodragon:With the release of the next movie "Celebi: A Timeless Encounter" next week, how many confirmed promo cards are there?
master_trainer_mike says, "Iain, have you taken over Chrisbo's rules lawyer job??? :)"
master_trainer_pat says, "One confirmed...it's the Celebi that is pictured on our website"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #29 from matthewssandslash:Hey, are the Exp. boosters set to be mailed yet?
master_trainer_pat says, "Soon"
master_trainer_mike says, "We just got the product today and it will be mailed out over the next week."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #30 from mysterioustrainer:How many maple bars would you recommend to bring to Pokemon 4ever the movie? On a serius note however has the DCI reporter downloads been upgraded for Pokemon Team Play?
master_trainer_mike says, "Heck with te maple bars......"
master_trainer_mike says, "The Reporter version that you can download should now be 2.23 which includes Team Pokemon Multiplay"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #31 from lord_schweizer:here in australia...we don't really do anything with the dci numbers...we get the card...but the stores don't do anything with them...does it have any effect in usa? - i'm the gym leader of one store and within a couple of weeks i'll be the gym leader
master_trainer_mike says, "Each player must have a DCI # to play in sanctioned events. If you don;t sanction any tournaments then it probably has no real use I guess."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #32 from puritys_echidna:awwww..thanks guys (hugs everyone)
master_trainer_mike says, "Happy Birthday old man."
master_trainer_mike says, "whahahahahahaha"
master_trainer_mike says, "So, what did you guys think of the Echo theme deck (those of you that have been able to get it)?"
master_trainer_mike says, "I designed that one, so feel free to gripe at me :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #34 from matthewssandslash:Re: 29 "Soon"? Not "wait and see"? My my, I expected more from you guys... anyway, good to see that the boosters are coming soon.
master_trainer_mike says, "We just had to get the product. hard to get I hear :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #35 from puritys_echidna:just remember... we know when YOUR birthday is too... (um... i THNK)

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #36 from calathon:what's this? Ech can drive a car now? :o
master_trainer_mike says, "Matchbox"
master_trainer_mike says, "Thats it?"
master_trainer_mike says, "That's every last pair of shoes in the place?"
master_trainer_mike says, "UNLESS YOU WANT TO TRY......."
master_trainer_pat says, "Whew."
master_trainer_mike says, "the CRUEL SHOES"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #37 from pokesensei:You designed that one?No wonder it stunk! ;-) J/k Mike.I thought it was great that a decent theme deck came out.Kudos!
master_trainer_mike says, "Its interesting the limitations that are put on what can go in a deck."
master_trainer_mike says, "Only so many of each rarity and so on."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #38 from m_p_douglas:I love the Echo Deck! You managed to sneak in Copycat! That's like putting Elm in a theme deck!
master_trainer_mike says, "Pat helped with that."
master_trainer_pat says, "Each deck has to get some card draw or it's no fun in the sealed Theme Deck Challenge..."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #39 from mysterioustrainer:I liked the Echo, I am still working on ideas for a Modified deck with the alakazam (maybe with Neo Discovery Xatu). However thank you for throwing in one of every basic energy into the deck.
master_trainer_mike says, "Thought it would be interesting that way."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #40 from calathon:wow. Someone else that has Steve Martin's comedy album...
master_trainer_mike says, "Dude, I still have it on vinyl from 1978."
master_trainer_pat says, "D'oh...same here"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #42 from matthewssandslash:Re: 37-39 The fact that the evolution pyramids now look like they were designed by people that know the game better helps.
master_trainer_pat says, "Yep."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #43 from calathon:A Supporter has to be used immediately upon being played, correct? The "if you don't use it" phrasing is only for things like Chaos Gym, right?
master_trainer_mike says, "Fisrt part of the answer is that Japan does not want you to play Gym cards with e-cards. They even asked us to not let you use Genesis with e-cards because they consider them to be digfferent games or different parts of the game."
master_trainer_mike says, "BUT obviously our markets are differemt."
master_trainer_mike says, "We will have to say that on a failed Chaos Gym flip, the opponent could NOT use a supporter card (as it goes into play, to mark that a supporter was used)."
master_trainer_mike says, "They would not put it next to their active Pokemon as you never take another player's cards."
master_trainer_mike says, "So on a failed Chaos Gym flip, a supporter would just be discarded."
master_trainer_mike says, "So you could still try and use another supporter since the first one was never played."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #44 from chrisbo:You may still have it on vinyl, but do you have anything to play it on? :-p
master_trainer_mike says, "Yeah, and a working beta and 8 track machine as well buddy!"
master_trainer_pat says, "I can verify that..."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #45 from calathon:So, if you play a Supporter and flip tails on Chaos Gym, can your opponent use it, and can you try to play another Supporter or does the first one sit there, useless?
master_trainer_mike says, "See above answer."
master_trainer_mike says, "The card does NOT work and it is discarded, opponent cannot use it (think of it like a Poketool in this case)."
master_trainer_mike says, "You could still try and play another on your turn since the first one didn't resolve."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #46 from m_p_douglas:If a mall store does not have room directly in their store for a BattleZone/Game League official program, can they hold it in the food court of the Mall if the Mall Security permits it? (It would still be in a "Retail Location"?)
master_trainer_mike says, "That is up to the individual stores."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #48 from pigdeon_of_death:Re: 43... that bring up an important point. Slowking, Dark Vileplume, etc. stop Supporters just like trainers, right?
master_trainer_mike says, "Correct. It still says Trainer on the top of the cards."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #49 from lord_schweizer:what is a supporter?
master_trainer_pat says, "Well...."
master_trainer_mike says, "A new type of trainer card from Expedition."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #50 from calathon:OK, but do you have George Carlin's "Class Clown"?
master_trainer_mike says, "Wasn't a big Carlin fan back then. Robin Williams first album"
master_trainer_pat says, "Nope, I have Mel Brooks and Carl Reiner..."
master_trainer_mike says, "Bill Cosby (you know if you put a bullet in the furance, it'll 'splode)....."
master_trainer_pat says, "Jonathan Winters"
master_trainer_pat says, "Johnny Carson"
master_trainer_mike says, "Pat is quite the funny guy."
master_trainer_mike says, "now we know why"
master_trainer_mike says, "and it makes me sigh"
master_trainer_pat smiles.
master_trainer_mike says, "no more questions?"
master_trainer_mike says, "that's all?"
master_trainer_mike says, "hmmm? yes? hmmmm?"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #52 from pigdeon_of_death:Cya, and I hope to get boosters soon! ;)
master_trainer_mike says, "If you won them at Worlds, they will be sent out this week :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #53 from m_p_douglas:Has the new Expedition Blastoise Pokemon Power question been settled yet? I am asking because there are cards like Neo 2 Metapod that have already have rulings made on them in the Master Card Rulings. Metapod, Dark Pupitar, and Counterattack Claws all do what follows the "then" in the text of these cards. If you put these cards side by side with the Expedition Blastoise, you will find the wording almost exactly the same style. There are almost a dozen cards of this nature and the Blastoise Ruling could change how all of them are played?????
master_trainer_mike says, "First, STOP trying to find running logic in this game!!!!"
master_trainer_mike says, "IT DOES NOT EXIST!!!!!"
master_trainer_mike says, "When we ask rulings from Japn, what tyhey give us has NOTHING to do with any other rulings they have ever given us."
master_trainer_mike says, "Through in the translation and templating issues and that is why the last version of the Master Rulinsg is 187 pages long."
master_trainer_mike says, "Look at how busy poor Team Compendium is for gawds sake."
master_trainer_mike says, "Anyway, Blastoise is played as dollows."
master_trainer_mike says, "IF you have an energy on your Blastoise and IF Blastoise is your active Pokemon, then once during your tun you MAY choose to flip a coin. If you get heads, then you discard an energy from Blastoise. If you DO discard an energy from Blastoise (emaning there has to be one on there to discard)"
master_trainer_mike says, "then you can also discard one energy from the Defending Pokemon."
master_trainer_mike says, "That is how the card is supposed to work, period."
master_trainer_mike says, "As for all those other cards you mentioned, the more you ask about them, the more likely all te rulings will be arbitrarily changed."
master_trainer_mike )
master_trainer_mike smirks.
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry, but you have to understand that the designers of this game do not have a set of rules or logic they follow per se."
master_trainer_mike says, "They make what sounds cool without regard for some of the past issues which is why they ask that cards form older stes do not get used with newer sets."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #54 from ikendall:Nice to see a couple of articles about GenConUK up! You can see me in one of the pictures :) ...Pity my name is spelled incorrectly, masteyr traeineour miaeiouke.....
master_trainer_mike says, "That's right.......IAIN....I will get it changed sir :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #55 from matthewssandslash:Well, see you all next week! =)
master_trainer_mike says, "Hasta la vista baby!"
master_trainer_mike says, "With no ther outstanding questions, we will get back to work."
master_trainer_mike says, "Like we said earlier, the Expedition prizes form worlds will be going out in the next week."
master_trainer_pat says, "Later all!"
master_trainer_mike says, "And as soon as we know anything about BattleZone, the Challenge series, Professor training program, and Expedition in Europe we will let you know."
master_trainer_mike says, "Keep an eye on our web site and boards."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #56 from m_p_douglas:Did we just Errata the Expedition Blastoise? Or should we not evolve Dark Pupitar on the coin flip?
master_trainer_mike says, "Blastoise is errated......"
master_trainer_mike says, "Play Dark Pupitar as we have ruled it but now you are asking us to go back and look at them all again."
master_trainer_mike says, "So be prepared for rules reversals perhaps......"
master_trainer_mike says, "Ok, gotta go write more Pokemon stuff. Take care all (happy birthday Ech)."
master_trainer_mike says, "See you next week!"