--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pokemon Chat Report - Thursday, October 19, 2000
by Ka-Lok Fung - Scrye Contributing Editor
Rules Only Version by PokePop
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master_trainer_pat says, "I will go ahead and correct something that slipped by us last week and that is that when you use Electrode's Buzzap Pokemon Power you can only choose one type of energy for that Buzzap'd Electrode to provide."
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup, R&D error there."
master_trainer_mike says, "They are human too."
master_trainer_mike says, "Though they don't always admit it."
master_trainer_mike says, "hee hee hee"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #5 from bigdaddysnorlax:
        When a Chaos Gym is in play, and you flip tails when trying to play a Trainer, does your opponent use the Trainer immediately (assuming they can fulfill the requirements to use it) or do they have to wait until their turn?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup he must use it immediately or not at all."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #8 from bigdaddysnorlax:
        If a Chaos Gym is in play, can your opponent choose to use your Plus Powers and Defenders if you flip tails?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup."
[Ed. Note: This is different than in Japan!]

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #9 from bigdaddysnorlax:
        You use Misty's Psyduck ESP attack against a Ditto.  You flip 3 heads so you get to copy an attack.  Since Ditto is Misty's Psyduck, can you copy the ESP attack and flip 3 coins again?
master_trainer_mike says, "Sure but that would be silly."
[Ed. Note: No, it not silly. The different flips might have a different effect!]

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #11 from bigdaddysnorlax:
        Clarification regarding Lt. Surge's Secret Plan: The card says "Flip the card if it ever uses an attack or Pokémon power...".  Does this mean if you place a Stage 1 or 2 face down, you could flip it, use its Attacks or Powers and then discard it because it is not a Basic?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, if you flipped it and it wasn't a basic, you would discard it.  You wouldn't be able to use attacks or P-mon Powers on that P-mon."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #12 from pikabruce:
        Ditto opposite Rapidash.  Ditto does Agility and flips heads.  Then the opponent plays Goop Gas Attack.  Can the opponent do damage to Ditto this turn?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nope, the Agility effect is still residing on him."


master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #15 from bigdaddysnorlax:
        Clarification on Brock's Protection: The card does not specifically say how long it stays in play.  Is it discarded after your opponent's next turn, ordoes it stay attached to the Pokémon?
master_trainer_mike says, "It stays on that Pokémon while that Pokemon is in play."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #16 from profpoke:
        If Ditto copies a Koga's Beedrill and uses Hyper Needle, can Ditto use the attack again if it gets benched and then becomes active again?
master_trainer_pat says, "Nope"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #18 from profpoke:
        If you use Tickling Machine and flip a heads then play an Imposter Professor Oak, does your opponent shuffle the face down cards into his deck or does he just draw 7 cards?
master_trainer_pat says, "He just draws 7 cards."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #20 from profpoke:
        If my opponent successfully play a Tickle Machine, and there is a Chaos Gym in play, if he plays an Oak and flips tails and I choose to use it, do I have to discard the face down cards and draw 7 cards or just draw 7 cards?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, those face down cards stay where they are."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #21 from profpoke:
        If Ditto is copying a Sabrina's Kadabra, can you play a Sabrina's ESP on Ditto? And if you gust up a different non-Sabrina Pokémon, can you use the attached ESP when you attack?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes you could but we will verify that answer with R&D."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #22 from chrisbo:
        With Chaos Gym, if I try to play a "turn-ending" card (like Computer Error or Tickling Machine) but flip tails, if my opponent chooses to go ahead and use the card is my turn then immediately over even though it was not I who used the card?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, your opponent would just ignore that part of the card and you could continue your turn after your opponent uses the trainer."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #25 from scrye_fung:
        So has DMTM been punished for his mistakes on the Electrode Buzzap question he answered wrong last week?
master_trainer_pat says, "Everyone makes mistakes Scrye_Fung, even you...we've seen your posts"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #26 from pikabruce:
        If Sabrina's Kadabra does Life Drain against an undamaged Mr. Mime, how many damage counters are placed on Mr. Mime?
master_trainer_mike says, "3 damage counters, the Invisible Wall does not prevent the placement of damage counters, only damage."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #27 from chrisbo:
        With Chaos Gym, if I try to play Goop Gas Attack but flip tails, if my opponent chooses to use the card does the Goop stay active for my turn + their turn + my turn once again, or just until the end of my current turn? (card text says "opp's NEXT turn
master_trainer_pat says, "Since Goop Gas is being played by your opponent it would last until the end of your next turn"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #28 from pikabruce:
        Can Koga's Kakuna use its Pokemon Power to evolve on the same turn it comes into play?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #29 from chrisbo:
        With Chaos Gym, what happens if I try to play a Plus Power or Defender and flip tails?  And if they can use it, how long would it stay attached?
master_trainer_mike says, "They last until the end of the player's turn who played it.  So if you tried to use it on your turn and flipped tails and I decided to use it instead.  It would last until the end of my turn."
[Ed. Note: This sounds even more confused!]

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #31 from pikabruce:
        Since "Life Drain doesn't do damage, it just places damage counters," does this mean that Life Drain will place damage counters equal to 110 on Chansey, even if Chansey has successfully done Scrunch?
master_trainer_mike says, "Correct!!!"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #32 from pikabruce:
        Is base Mewtwo's "Barrier" like a "Smokescreen" (the attack fails), or does Barrier only prevent damage and effects done to Mewtwo?  (Would "Fetch", "Messenger", "Scavenge", "Stretch Kick", etc., still work despite the Barrier?)
master_trainer_pat says, "Barrier is unlike Smokescreen in that Barrier will prevent effects _to_ Mewtwo, but other effects will still happen.  So Fetch would work against Barrier."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #34 from chrisbo:
        If my opponent plays Challenge and I put some Pokémon onto the bench, can I evolve those Pokémon when my turn comes around or do I have to wait a full turn after that?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes you can."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #35 from chrisbo:
        If I use Charizard's Energy Burn to make some cards into Fire energy, do they stay Fire if I use Energy Flow to bring them back into my hand?  The Energy Burn power says "until the end of the turn".
master_trainer_pat says, "They remain Fire only while they're in play."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #37 from scrye_fung:
        Why wasn't the Industry Edge chat w/ R&D on Gym: Challenge advertised better? I mean, I only found about it 2 hours before the actual chat!
master_trainer_mike says, "Probably a last minute addition."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #38 from chrisbo:
        Can I use Devolution Spray (trainer) on a Pokemon that I evolved on that same turn?  For example, I evolve to Muk to turn off Dark Vileplume's "Hay Fever", play all the trainer cards I want, and finally use DevoSpray on the Muk at the end.
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes you could do that."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #39 from rainbow_trainer:
        A BuzzZapped Electrode on a Rocket's Zapdos, how does this play when Zapdos does his Electroburn Attack... as far as the damage done to Zapdos..??
master_trainer_pat says, "In this case Rocket's Zapdos states 'Lightning energy cards' so the Buzzap'd Electrode would only count as one Lightning card."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #41 from chrisbo:
        If I flip tails while trying to use Rocket's Secret Experiment, does that mean I can't play any more trainers for the rest of this turn *and* the entirety of my next turn too?  Or is it just until the end of my current turn?
master_trainer_mike says, "You would have to wait until the end of your next turn...  What a yucchy card."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #42 from chrisbo:
        Brock's Protection (trainer) says to "attach it to one of your pokemon with Brock in its name", but it doesn't say when to discard the card.  Does it last for the remainder of the game?
master_trainer_mike says, "As long as that Pokemon remains in play it does."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #43 from chrisbo:
        If I have one Sabrina's Alakazam active and another on my bench, can I use Psylink to use the benched one's Mega Burn attack on the turn after I used the active one's Mega Burn attack?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, you would not be able to use Mega Burn during your next turn even if you used the Psylink Power"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #44 from chrisbo:
        Dark Weezing's "Mass Explosion" attack does 20 damage times the number of Koffings, Weezings, and Dark Weezings in play.  Does this include Koga's Koffing & Koga's Weezing too or not?
master_trainer_pat says, "Nada."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #46 from pikabruce:
        Some are interpreting rule 215 of the Pokemon DCI Floor Rules to mean that if the 1st player mulligans, then 2nd player may draw 2 addition cards even if no basic Pokemon were drawn in the 2nd player's initial 7 card draw.  Is this correct?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yeash, technically you could do that but if you still don't end up with a basic then you get caught cheating and you lose the match,period!"
master_trainer_mike says, "Not a smart move to do."
master_trainer_pat says, "Not a good thing to be caught doing..."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #47 from imakuni_00:
        wooo
master_trainer_mike says, "Hoooo"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #50 from chrisbo:
        Last week in Q114, DMTM said that a Buzzap'd Electrode could provide 1 Fire and 1 Plant (as long as that plant is Grass) energy.  Are you allowed to split the energy types like that (one of each) or did he just run out of donuts or something?
master_trainer_mike says, "He gave the answer we were given by R&D months ago. They corrected it today.  So no you could not do that but DMTM gave you what he was told to say."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #52 from profpoke:
        If there is a Choas Gym in play, and you try play a Rocket's Secret Experiment and get tails, and your opponent choose to use it and get tails, can he still play trainer cards during his turn?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nope."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #53 from firetrainer:
        If some use Sabrina's Kadabra's First attack ( I can't remember its name) with a power plus does knock out the defending in one hit.  Do you apply weakness, resistance  and Pokemon Power for the attack.
master_trainer_pat says, "No, because that attack isn't doing damage."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #55 from hi_jynx:
        The Rocket's Minefield Gym card is kind of vague.  It says, flip a coin, if heads put damage counters on the pokemon, but it doesn't say how many?
master_trainer_mike says, "That is an error.  It is supposed to say 2 damage counters.  Play it as if it said 2."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #61 from firetrainer:
        Can I use Erika's Clefairy lv16 Lunar Power to evolve my Pokemon on my first turn, and can this attack be use to evolve a Pokemon with Aerodactyl in play.
master_trainer_pat says, "No you couldn't use that on your first turn, but it would get around Aerodactyl"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #62 from pikabruce:
        If Ditto is opposite a Brock's Ninetales which has used Shapeshift to turn into Clefable, is Ditto a Clefable or a Brock's Ninetales?
master_trainer_pat says, "It is a Brock's Ninetales."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #64 from pikabruce:
        If Brock's Ninetales has used Shapeshift to turn into Clefable, and the opponent plays Goop Gas Attack, is Clefable discarded or does Brock's Ninetales turn back into Clefable after the Goop Gas wears off?
master_trainer_pat says, "Check the last line on the Shapeshift text.  The Clefable would get discarded."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #67 from rainbow_trainer:
        I am Confused.... Chaos Gym.... I thought Trainers that Stay in play such as Plus Power & Defender, could not be used by your opponent...???
master_trainer_pat says, "Sorry for confusing you, that was our mistake in not checking the card text first.  Any Trainer that needs to be put in play may not be used by your opponent."
master_trainer_mike says, "Oops, must still have Vermont on my mind.  The card is worded a bit unclearly and we read it wrong, you are right."
[Ed. Note: A Ha!]

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #69 from pipipi:
        About question 8, doesn't Chaos Gym say "Your opponent cannot use the trainer if it says to attach it to a pokemon"?
master_trainer_mike says, "Right, we were wrong."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #70 from firetrainer:
        If my opponent use Pokemon Breeder and flip tails with Chaos Gym in play, can I use that Pokémon Breeder on one of my pokemon to evolve it if I have the necessary basic and stage 2 Pokémon?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup you can."
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes, sir"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #71 from thundrchld:
        if your opponent sent out another koga's beedrill for question 16 would you be able to use the attack?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yeah."
[Ed Note: I don't think so...]

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #72 from pikabruce:
        If Brock's Ninetales is poisoned, and then uses Shapeshift and attaches an evolution card, is Brock's Ninetales still poisoned?
master_trainer_pat says, "Correct."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #73 from gunterl:
        Is Rocket's Minefield Gym going to be corrected?
master_trainer_mike says, "Print-wise no, play it as if it said 2 damage counters."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #74 from char_e_zard21:
        are there any more errors in the challenge set?
master_trainer_pat says, "Not that we're aware of."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #75 from snorelax:
        is the Rockets victrebel non-holo have an error about weakness (fighting)
master_trainer_mike says, "Ummm no, its the Dark Vileplume."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #78 from ikendall:
        doesn't chaos gym disallow the use of cards that stay in play (ie. plus power) by your opponent if you flip tails
master_trainer_mike says, "YES!!  WE ADMIT IT!!! WE WERE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
master_trainer_pat says, "What're you talking about man?"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #80 from rocketelectabuzz:
        If i play a Rocket Zapdos and attach three rainbow to it and one lets say potion energy, do the three rainbow do 10 damage each to Zapdos when i use elctroburn??? (not sure if attack name is right)
master_trainer_pat says, "While Rainbow energy is in play it counts as every type, so yes it would do 10 damage."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #81 from profpoke:
        I think that if you play a Defender or PlusPower with chaos gym in play the card should just be discarded since those cards must be put "in to play" and Chaos Gym says. What is your estimate on the number of questions that will be re-answered next time =ŢŤ
master_trainer_mike says, "(sigh) you guys browbeat us so...................... thousands of times...."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #84 from scrye_fung:
        Any comment on Ms. Woodruff's statement (Tuesday) that she has worked on a Theme Deck for an Upcoming Expansion? A no comment is also sufficient btw :)
master_trainer_mike says, "No comment, but it is minty fresh."
master_trainer_mike says, "My comment that is, it is minty fresh."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #86 from profpoke:
        As stated in the answer to #38, I believe you could not devolve a poke you evolved the same turn because the Dev Spray says treats it just as if you had evolved it, and you can't "evolve" a Pokémon more than once per turn, or am i mistaken somewhere?
master_trainer_mike says, "It means that it would count as evolving meaning you could not then evolve a Pokemon you Devolved that turn.  It is NOT Evolving so you can play it after Evolving.  It just counts as it for the sake of figuring other rules.  Confusing I know."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #88 from magmar2000:
        If I attach a pluspower to Brock's Golbat and so Spiral Dive, would the plus power do 10 extra damage to the defending Pokemon, making it 20 to the defending, and 10 to the opponent's bench?
master_trainer_pat says, "Correct Magmar2k!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #89 from snorelax:
        Is Team Rocket Grimer's Poison Gas supposed to say puts opponent to sleep or is that an error?
master_trainer_mike says, "Play it as written."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #90 from pikachu89:
        Chaos Gym is in play.  I play a Plus Power.  I flip a tails.  Can my opponent use it on their next turn?  If not, why?  Are there other cards that can't be used?
master_trainer_pat says, "They cannot.  Chaos Gym will not let your opponent use trainers that must be put into play."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #96 from bulbasnore:
        A well respected player says that a confused Pokémon's failed attacks itself with 20 plus any effects of that attack (e.g. thus MP Mewton fails the confusion flip for Energy Absorption, hits itself for 20(doubled) and absorbs the two energies). Is that right?
master_trainer_mike says, "Wrong, only hits himself for 20 which is then affected by the Pokémon's weakness or Resistance.  No other attack effects apply."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #97 from hi_jynx:
        Can Rocket's Minefield be used against Clefairy Doll and Mysterious fossil?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup it would."
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes....d'oh.  I don't like how that hurts my Aerodactyl deck."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #102 from rocketelectabuzz:
        I was at the STS qualifier and This Guy was using a Rocket Snorlax and didn't flip therefore he did twenty and knocked out my Electabuzz. Is that not fair or what???(4th round too. I would have been in the finals of a tourny for the first time)
master_trainer_mike says, "Unless Snorlax was already asleep, he would not have had to flip."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #103 from thundrchld:
        can i use the trainer giovanni to evolve pokemon first turn?
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes, kinda cool huh?"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #113 from rebelspy18:
        can you knock out a pokemon in 1 hit with a plus power and sabrina's kadabra?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nope."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #116 from poke_fanatic:
        If I have a fossil haunter out against a ditto and ditto transforms and uses nightmare and then I get up and use nightmare does he get any damage because if he goes to sleep the pokemon power transform turns off and then ditto has resistance to psychic.
master_trainer_mike says, "Damage is done first (so you would check with the Ditto Haunter Transparency).  Other effects of the attack take place after everything else so the Ditto Resistance is irrelevant in this case, use the Haunter's listings."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #120 from rocketelectabuzz:
        Say i play in a tournie on my Birthday can i cream every one with a B-day Pikachu?? (after they are released in north america without the 9 card stamp thingy)
master_trainer_pat says, "No, they won't be legal for tourney play."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #121 from kirby4000:
        Do you think this is a good strategy? Use 4 Pokeflute to fill your opponent's bench and then use Dark Hypno's bench manipulation to do heavy damage?
master_trainer_mike says, "I think anyone using a Pokeflute plays WAY too much Pokemon."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #131 from rebelspy18:
        about question#113 why not? kadabra & plus power, it's to good says do ten more damage on the plus power and, i'm sure you have a good reason...right?
master_trainer_mike says, "The Kadabra attack places damage COUNTERS, it does NOT do damage so pluspower does nothing."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #133 from feralshade:
        what if a thundershock is used against a sleeping rocket's snorlax?
master_trainer_mike says, "The damage is done first thereby possibly triggeringSnorlax's Pokemon power (assuming it is asleep).  Then the Paralysis effect takes place and Snorlax would no longer be asleep."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #135 from supra:
        for blaine's quiz #1/2/3 where it say "Either way, return the card to your hand". does this mean the Pokémon or blaines quiz?
master_trainer_pat says, "The Pokemon."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #172 from rebelspy18:
        do you apply weakness & resistance on sabrina's kadabra? (life drain)
master_trainer_mike says, "No you don't.  Any attack that places damage counters is not affected by those."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #185 from scrye_fung:
        Sand-attack. If tails, that attack does nothing. Does this mean that the attack cannot be made or that the attack can be made but neither damage nor effects can happen?
master_trainer_pat says, "The attack will be made, but damage and effects don'thappen."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #191 from scrye_fung:
        Say I'm facing Lt. Surge's Electrode and I'm doing Dark Alakzam's Teleport Thingee. Would Shock Blast, given heads, affect Alakzam or the Pokemon I'm bring up to satisfy Teleport's effect?
master_trainer_pat says, "It would still affect Alakazam before he makes his switch."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #192 from feralshade:
        why do all three Charizards have huge wings yet also have a 3 retreat cost?
master_trainer_mike says, "Did you ever see Mothra or Giddhra fly??  Big wings but slow as heck.  Same idea."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #198 from scrye_fung:
        MTP .. on Q191 .. can you give any detailed reasoning? TIA!
master_trainer_mike says, "Because as we have said time and time again.  First you apply damage from an attack, then if anything is triggered by that damage being placed you then resolve those effects, then after that is all done, and only then do you apply any other effects from your attack (in this case the switch effect)."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #200 from feralshade:
        if 100 damage is done to a Brock's Ninetales with a dark charizard on it is Ninetales KO'ed; if not, does the opponent draw a prize?
master_trainer_mike says, "It is ko'ed.  Dark Charizard only has 80 hp."