Pokemon Chat Report - Thursday, July 26, 2001
by Team Compendium


master_trainer_pat says, "Howdy."
master_trainer_pat says, "How's everyone doin'"
master_trainer_mike says, "Weedles and Scythers in my soup!"
master_trainer_mike says, "Pokemon crackers loop dy loop!"
master_trainer_pat says, "Welcome to another wild and wacky Pokemon chat episode...."
master_trainer_pat grins evilly.
master_trainer_pat says, "I don't know whether Mike and Steve talked about this last week or not..."
master_trainer_pat says, "but Southern Islands will be the next set of cards that we release"
master_trainer_mike says, "The Mew is pretty cool!"
master_trainer_mike says, "some would call it......."
master_trainer_pat says, "They will be sold as a box set, so you will get the whole set all at once."
master_trainer_mike says, "MINTY FRESH!"
master_trainer_pat says, "Wow, that's one from the closet"
master_trainer_pat says, "The reverse holo cards(there are 6) are really cool looking."
master_trainer_mike says, "Many bothans died to bring you the following information."
master_trainer_mike says, "Here is an early list of the majority of the West Coast QT locations and dates!"
master_trainer_mike says, "The complete list will be posted on our web site next week but here is some of it for ya!"
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Eugene OR "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/8/01 SF Bay Area CA "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Denver CO "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Houston TX "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/29/01 Dallas TX "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/14/01 Kansas City KS "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Minneapolis MN "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/29/01 Chicago IL "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 Memphis TN "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/20/01 Atlanta GA "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/22/01 Orlando FL "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/29/01 Raleigh NC "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/16/01 Roanoke VA "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/14/01 Washington DC "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 Philadelphia PA "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 New York NY "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Syracuse NY "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/28/01 Boston MA "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/14/01 Toronto ON "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/6/01 Las Vegas NV "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 Salt Lake City UT "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/27/01 Albuquerque NM "
master_trainer_pat smiles.
master_trainer_mike says, "So that's the complete list I have so far, I know there will be 8+ or more added in the next few days including another one or two in Canada."
master_trainer_mike says, "So, who says we don;t got the news for you??? HUH!?!?!?"
master_trainer_pat says, "No Gnus is good Gnus."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #1 from magmar2000:Can we use VS cards that have already been released in the US as long as we use sleeves? I got a holo Darkness Energy that I want to use. ;-)
master_trainer_pat says, "Nope. Sorry."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #2 from dunjohn_:Dunjohn's first rules qeustion: Two players both get starting hands with no basic pokemon, so player 1 mulligans and player 2 draws 2 cards. However, neither card is a basic, and player 1's new hand still has no basics in it. Who mulligans next?
master_trainer_pat says, "If player 2 doesn't have any basics in their opening hand then both player's should have restarted."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #3 from dunjohn_:where do promos come from? Does wizards create them, are they translated japanese promos, or what are they?
master_trainer_mike says, "We translate cards that were released in Japan."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #4 from chrisbo:When using Feint Attack against an opponent that has Unown-D (regardless of whether it's benched or active), the only time the "Darkness" power is ignored is when attacking the active pokemon, and it is never ignored when attacking the bench, right?
master_trainer_pat says, "Correct."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #5 from chrisbo:If a pokemon with a Focus Band attached is KO'd by Elekid's "Playful Punch" power, does the Focus Band go into effect or not?
master_trainer_pat says, "Focus band will only trigger off an attack that KO's the Pokemon it's attached to."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #6 from chrisbo:Igglybuff's "Gaze" power says "Once during your turn... choose 1 of your opponent's Benched Pokemon that has a Pokemon Power". It does not say "you *may* choose", so is this a mandatory power that *must* be invoked if possible? (Any word from R&D yet
master_trainer_pat says, "We'll have to ask R&D. We think it may be a misprint."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #7 from dunjohn_:wahay #2 and #3 were from me. Lt. Surges Rattata has focus energy, which doubles his other attack's base damage. However one of the ratatta's has quick attack; what's that attacks base damage?
master_trainer_pat says, "It would be the amount of damage that attack would do before applying Weakness/Resistance/Darkness or Metal effects."
master_trainer_pat says, "So you would flip for Quick attack and double the result."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #8 from peekachoo1:Any qualifier dates?
master_trainer_mike says, "looky lookie!"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #10 from yoshi1001:What do you do if a Blaine's Quiz is played in a way that prevents proper answer (i.e., wrong attack with bq3)?
master_trainer_pat says, "Well, it depends on how far the player's followed through with the effects of the trainer card"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #11 from pkmnx:I was wondering if you guys would know this...how many "layers" of different types of paper are put into one card? for each color, etc...or would you not know, because it's a development thing?
master_trainer_pat says, "Sorry, we really don't know too much about the actual process used to produce the cards."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #12 from megax_pa:they mentioned a little about Southern Islands. Could you give us some more details?
master_trainer_mike says, "18 never before rleased cards, 6 are reverse holo, cool postcards, neat binder, some neo boosters packs"
master_trainer_mike says, "a great new gift box coming soon!"
master_trainer_mike says, "and the mew and exeggute are tournament playable cards I think...."
master_trainer_pat says, "Sloking, Vileplume, Lickitung, Wartotle, Lapras and Marill...to name a few"
master_trainer_pat says, "Whoops, Wartortle"
master_trainer_pat says, "Bear with us today folks our postings are really, really slow for some reason"
master_trainer_mike says, "They look cool!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #14 from peekachoo1:Since they will sold as the whole set, does that mean there's no rare Southern Island cards?
master_trainer_pat says, "They don't have rarity symbols on them at all."
master_trainer_mike says, "more like promos, though not numbered ones"
master_trainer_pat says, "There are 18 cards in the set."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #15 from kakkaroto7:We are having a tournament STS style at our dci tournament, is that legal?? I am using weedle for anti feraligatr (neo D is allowed)
master_trainer_mike says, "Not yet for sanctioned events but soon enough you will be able to sanction MOdified tournaments...details to come soon."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #16 from dunjohn_:the list of promos on the wizards site only goes as far as the movie legendary birds. Is it gonna be updated anytime?
master_trainer_pat says, "We'll suggest that."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #17 from yoshi1001:Where can I get info on the Pokemon tourney at gencon? I can't make heads or tails of the web site.
master_trainer_mike says, "If you mean the Pokemon Gym that we are running, there are details about it (as it was run at Origins) on the Pokegym."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #19 from dunjohn_:MTPat called the Islands holos "reverse holos". Sorry if I'm being thick, but I haven't heard that term before, what's it mean? And were any of the japanese cards holographic?
master_trainer_pat says, "Reverse holos like the Entei card that was given out at Pokemon the Movie 3."
master_trainer_mike says, "or Pichu!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #18 from nookiemn2k3:for the qualifier in dallas does that mean that it will be in dallas or will it be in fort-worth (u said dallas but it was in fort-worth ) which is what u did with the ecsts "dallas" qualifier ?
master_trainer_mike says, "Details to come on our website next week."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #20 from articjedi:so do you have the place of the Seattle Qualfier if there is one?
master_trainer_pat says, "That wasn't on the list, but we'll get some more QT dates on the website next week"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #21 from professormaple:Any two day qualifiers this time around?
master_trainer_mike says, "There might be one to end the overall QT tour. Again details to come on the web site."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #22 from pokesensei:If I use Neo D Magnemite's "Lock On" the turn before and am then confused the following turn and try to attack with "Electric Bolt", get a tails for the confusion flip, do you treat it as heads?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, Magnemite's Lock On only works on coin flips _for_ the attack, not for Confusion."
master_trainer_pat says, "Sorry, to rain on your parade."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #23 from the_wizard_of_odd:Do you know if Neo 4 is going to be put out in english? If so,when?
master_trainer_mike says, "dunno twice"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #24 from samantha_129:Any STS news, announcements, etc? (I didn't catch the beginning)
master_trainer_mike says, "wait until the end then, gave out a list of QT locations and dates"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #26 from kakkaroto7:Remember, focus band only works if your opponent attacks your pokemon with it attached, not if your chansey would KO itself. And only from attacks. Just clearing it up..
master_trainer_mike says, "Thanks we already knew that."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #27 from whatever360:How exactly does Pineco's attack work?
master_trainer_pat says, "Flip 2 coins, if the the _second_ coin flip is tails the attack does nothing."
master_trainer_pat says, "Depending on what the first flip was, the attack will either just do 40 or it will do 40 and 40 to itself and 10 to each benched Pokemon."
master_trainer_pat says, "I really dislike the way that card is worded...so be it."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #28 from dunjohn_:Blaines Charmander has an attack that says "Use this attack only if there are any Fire energy cards attached". Does that rule out Rainbow energy? and if not, why's it there?
master_trainer_pat says, "It's there to prevent Clefable(or other like-minded Pokemon) from Metronoming B. Charmander's attack without Fire Energy attached."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #29 from yoshi1001:Regarding Br. Ninetales v. F. Areodactyl: Why does Ninteales's not evolving get around Aeordactyl's power?
master_trainer_mike says, "Juste bceause."
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry you are trying to find logic in a game that doesn't have it a lot of the time."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #30 from masteryoda:was there an erratta on neo 2 scizor, and do we have to honour it when playing it?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, play it exactly as the text of the attack reads."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #31 from whatever360:In which cases is "Spikes"-Damage dealt? a) Magby sputters on Forretress, on the next turn Magby retreats for Cleffa. b) Ditto vs. Forretress, F. retreats for Cleffa. c) Ditto vs. Cleffa, C. retreats for Forretress. d) Ditto vs. Forretress, F. retreat
master_trainer_pat says, "A)Yes."
master_trainer_pat says, "B)R&D question"
master_trainer_pat says, "C)R&D question"
master_trainer_pat says, "D)R&D question"
master_trainer_mike says, "AHHHH!! NO MORE DITTO QUESTION!!!!!!!!!!!"
master_trainer_pat says, "Ditto has left the building."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #32 from the_wizard_of_odd:Is there any plans to do an errata on the Neo Discovery Scizor? I know it's old news,i'm just curious.
master_trainer_pat says, "No, it was actually decided that there will be no errata for Neo Discovery Scizor"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #33 from the_wizard_of_odd:When is Pokemon Crystal set to come out?
master_trainer_mike says, "never heard of it"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #35 from dunjohn_:Are the deck cards printed specially? In other words, Espeon appears in every box of whatever deck he's in. So, are there more Espeons in existence than other cards of the same rarity?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, there is not."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #36 from yoshi1001:Is it fair to assume that Ancient Mew is not tournament legal because there is no true English equivilent?
master_trainer_mike says, "Correct."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #37 from the_wizard_of_odd:What are the prices of the Southern Island sets? Are there going to be different sets of the cards like in the Japenese Southern Islands?
master_trainer_pat says, "We don't have the MSRP for it yet.(Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price)"
master_trainer_pat says, "It's all in one set."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #38 from kakkaroto7:Anything new about Neo3 or a reopenning of the cross trainer case?
master_trainer_mike says, "Neo 3 later this year, Cross Trainer never."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #39 from masteryoda:are there going to be theme deck with southern islands? because the set seems too small
master_trainer_pat says, "No. All the cards are in one box set. Buy one thing get the whole set. What a novel idea, huh?"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #40 from jeremya0:On Neo 2 Scizor, it's Double Claw attack's says "Flip 2 coins. This attack does 20 damage times the number of heads." But the base damage says "20+." So does that mean that the attack does 0 / 20 / 40 damage; or 20 / 40 / 60 damage?
master_trainer_pat says, "0/20/40"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #41 from yoshi1001:Re: 10 If cards were drawn, would that be some degree of precedural error?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #42 from masteryoda:any news on WCSTS2 format? this may have been asked, but I didnt see anything like that. are the previously banned sets going to be playable?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nothing to announce yet."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #43 from yoshi1001:Re: 17 can I just show up?
master_trainer_mike says, "For the Pokemon Gym? It will be $5 to join. Howvever there is a door fee to get into Gen Con itslef, details on the web."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #44 from jeremya0:Just curious about something; In Neo 2 you printed holo / non-holo doubles of the original Japanese holos from Neo 2. (By the way, I like having "split cards", it's more fun collecting and playing.) Anyway, how come there aren't "split doubles" of Butterfree and Beedrill? They were holo in the original Japanese set.
master_trainer_pat says, "Those were dropped to include the promo Espeon and Umbreon."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #45 from chrisbo:In Q15 you mentioned "modified" sanctioned tournaments in the future. Any estimate on when we can start doing those? Are we talking weeks or months? Just curious.
master_trainer_mike says, "The new floor rules and format is planned on being legal starting September 1st."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #46 from espeonx:If you use Conversion 1 with porygon to change your opponents weakness to metal, could you bring up Neo Discovery Steelix and KO your opponent with false swipe (assuming the defending pokemon has an even amount of HP)?
master_trainer_pat says, "You mean Scizor right? That would do the trick..."
master_trainer_pat nods solemnly.

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #47 from pikascythe11:Will they be giving out a promo card at the sts tournament in San Diego?
master_trainer_mike says, "no idea"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #48 from masteryoda:are you ever going to do anything for 15+? we are, in my opinion the more money-soending of the age groups, and we tend to take the game more seriously. this giving them a free trip and not is is quite a slap in the face.
master_trainer_mike says, "What do you mean? We have 2 free STS's every year that all ages can participate in, we have leagues that all ages can participate in, we sanction tournbaments that all ages can participate in."
master_trainer_mike says, "What extra we do is limited due to budgetary constraints, mandates fomr the Pokemon company, and corporate strategy."
master_trainer_mike says, "Why does everything have to be free for some of you?"
master_trainer_mike says, "It is thsi sort of attitude that makes it hard to justify spending any money on these events at times."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #49 from puritys_echidna:so the SI set is going to be Reverse Holo instead of Refractor like the Japanese ones then?
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes, that is correct the cards look like the Entei and Pichu, not like the refractor Togepi I have from the original Japanese set."
master_trainer_pat says, "They look sharp though."
master_trainer_pat smiles.

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #50 from jeremya0:Where can I find a list of all the English released Promos?
master_trainer_mike says, "If you email [email protected] they can email you the latest list"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #52 from megax_pa:Could you enlighten us as to what the exact release date for Southern Islands is?

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #51 from peekachoo1:Is there a format for the Qualifiers?
master_trainer_pat says, "First about release dates...we no longer will be sticking with 'official' release dates for any of our products. Since we sell through a wide variety of stores and distributors now its become increasingly difficult to stick to these dates all the time. You should see SI towards the end of August or the beginning of Sept."
master_trainer_mike says, "There will be a format for the QT's. Details to come soon."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #53 from jeremya0:Is there any chance of Wizards printing up info on Neo 2 (and Neo 3 and 4) like the inserts that used to appear in TopDeck magazine? I really miss those (and TopDeck)...
master_trainer_mike says, "Well we do articles on our web site about them."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #54 from soslowpoke:any info on next season for the league?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yeah Season 7 :)"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #55 from articjedi:Re: #27 so I flip one coin, if heads I do 40 damage, if tails I do 40 damage to both pokemon and 10 to each on the bench, then I flip a second coin and if tails the attack does nothing?
master_trainer_pat says, "Right. Kinda lame huh?"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #56 from soslowpoke:When do u plan on making cards for the E-Card reader?
master_trainer_mike says, "who said we were?"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #57 from chrisbo:When using Typhlosion's "Fire Recharge", instead of rolling a dice one at a time for each Typhlosion in play, can the player roll as many dice as there are Typhlosions at the same time?
master_trainer_pat says, "By DCI rules, you should do them separately. In casual play...well, not so much."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #58 from the_wizard_of_odd:Why did you guys change the text of Scizor's attack? And if it was an accident,why not change it?
master_trainer_pat says, "It was a mistake, it was decided to keep it the way the text reads."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #59 from yoshi1001:re: 29 So in other words, you say that a card that says you are attaching an evolution card isn't playing an evolution card?
master_trainer_mike says, "Dude, stop trying to apply that level of logic, you will find that the game itslef is rife with logic errors"
master_trainer_mike says, "the ruling is what was given by the Pokemon company, period."
master_trainer_pat says, "Right by your logic Crystal Beam should stop Mewtwo's Energy Absorbtion, which it does not."
master_trainer_mike says, "Which is does not."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #60 from chrisbo:Say Porygon changes an opponent's weakness to Metal. I then use Scizor's False Swipe to do half of the remaining HP damage, and then double that amount due to weakness. Is this the correct way to calculate the damage in this situation?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yup."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #61 from pikascythe11:Is the sts tournament in San Diego gonna be in a mall or something?
master_trainer_mike says, "No in a convention center or hall or some other big space like that"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #62 from calathon:A couple of weeks ago you ruled that if Ditto was Transformed into a Pokemon with a Pokemon Power, he would have only one PP, theirs. Wouldn't Ditto also have Transform, giving him 2 Powers?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes he would. We were wrong."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #64 from soslowpoke:Does Houndoom's Crunch effect end when the Defender is Benched or Evolved
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes it does."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #65 from calathon:If you have an Unown D is in Play and you put another Unown D in play, do both of their Powers stop working, or just one? I'm asking since some rulings seem to be based on intent and not wording.
master_trainer_pat says, "Both their powers stop working."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #66 from jeremya0:Are there any plans (immediate, far future, etc.) to release any / some / all of the Vending Sheet Cards?
master_trainer_mike says, "Not at this time."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #67 from soslowpoke:Were any Cross Trainer cards actually printed?
master_trainer_pat says, "Nope"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #68 from pkmnx:The SI cards will be legal in normal play, right?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #69 from soslowpoke:Box? I thought Southern Islands was a binder
master_trainer_mike says, "Its a binder in a box."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #70 from articjedi:Is there anyway to appeal the desision on Scizor?
master_trainer_pat says, "No."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #73 from soslowpoke:Re:44- Why were they dropped for Espeon and Umbreon? Couldnt there be Holo Beedrill and Butterfree with the non holo promos Espeon and Umbreon?
master_trainer_pat says, "Apparently not without messing up the card coalation(sorting process)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #71 from pikascythe11:what is the latest promo card
master_trainer_mike says, "Well Hitmontop and Trainer Pikachu came out in Season 6."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #72 from yoshi1001:re: 43 I just need to know if I need show up on cartain days.
master_trainer_mike says, "It runs every single day of Gen Con. As for specific tournaments, those are scheduled for certain days."
master_trainer_pat says, "Also, some people were asking whether SI cards would have the Neo type weakness and resistence at the bottom. They do."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #74 from the_wizard_of_odd:I have been wondering this for a long time:is it true that the reason you made holo and non-holo versians of the rare cards in Jungle,Fossil,Team Rocket and Neo Discovery because there were low to no rare trainers or rare non-holos in those sets and you didn't want ot be giving a holo in every pack?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nope, wrong."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #75 from masteryoda:will there ever be a champions tourney at the STS, for the winners of each age group to compete vs each other, and win some extra honour or promo?
master_trainer_mike says, "No"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #76 from supra:SO, you guys aren't even going to consider to errata N:D Scizor anymore?
master_trainer_pat says, "It's not our decision to make, sorry."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #77 from pkmnx:Are reverse holos cheaper to make than refractors?(not complaining, just wondering. I like reverse holos better myself)
master_trainer_mike says, "no idea"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #78 from pikascythe11:For the ditto card, do you have to discard an energy if I was using ember or somehting?
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #79 from lance313:Re Q31. Why do the questions re Forretress not just boil down to that if the Ditto/Forretress is active, the defending retreating Forretress takes damage, but the Ditto/Cleffa would not impose dameage on the retreating Cleffa, since the Ditto does not become Forretress, and therefore the Spikes would not be in effect, until AFTER Cleffa had retreated?
master_trainer_mike says, "dude, there appear to be some simultaneous effects going on and before we give out confusing answers (like YOURS) we will verify them"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #80 from supra:Do you have any idea of what the MSRP for SI is?
master_trainer_pat says, "I do, but I don't want to say and then be wrong. You break open your piggy bank and stuff and then you don't have enough dough."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #81 from kakkaroto7:Any idea of a month for release of Neo3?
master_trainer_pat says, "yes"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #82 from soslowpoke:What's the promo number for next season's promo?
master_trainer_mike says, "an even number"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #83 from supra:Can you explain Pineco's attack again, it's getting me confused....>_<
master_trainer_mike says, "nope"
master_trainer_pat says, "Sorry, no. It makes my head hurt too"
master_trainer_mike says, "the first flip deteremines what it does, the sdoned flip determines whether it does the results of the first flip or ntohing"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #84 from yoshi1001:Re: 59 A Japanese ruling is irrelevant. Aerodactyl's Power changes meaning between countries-this is what allows emerge to work.
master_trainer_mike says, "This discussion is done."
master_trainer_mike says, "They own the game, they make the rules."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #85 from chrisbo:Calathon What relevence does your Q62 have about how many PP's Ditto has? I don't see any ramifications whether it has one or more powers/
master_trainer_mike says, "Me neither, but that is what was asked."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #86 from unown_master:What happened to Cross Trainer? I seem to have missed something here.
master_trainer_pat says, "Crosstrainer has been canceled"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #88 from masteryoda:are the base set cards ever going to be used again in STSs?
master_trainer_mike says, "Maybe, we are looking into side events and other additional tournaments"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #87 from soslowpoke:What are the Gym times for GenCon on Sunday?
master_trainer_pat says, "10 to 7"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #89 from pkmnx:Re: #71: What about Unown J? also, is Unown J legal in normal play?
master_trainer_mike says, "Not until it is widely released."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #90 from yoshi1001:regarding Neo 2 Metapod: What if you don't find a butterfree in your deck. Do you remove counters anyway?
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes, they are two different things"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #91 from espeonx:Since the power on Unown D says "This power stops working if you have more than 1 Unown D in play.", does that mean if you and your opponent both have unown Ds in play, both pokemon powers still work?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes they would"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #92 from articjedi:Why doesn't Wizards ban or errata cards with misprints?
master_trainer_mike says, "We do errata when a card is non-playable like Blaine's Charizard and Rocket's Minefield Gym was."
master_trainer_mike says, "Otherwsie we leave cards alone."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #94 from jeremya0:Our League is far behind on Promo cards, Badges, etc... How can they go about getting caught up with the current standings?
master_trainer_mike says, "Did they start late? We have all the supplies, there is no reason for a league to missing material;s, they just have to contact us."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #96 from pikascythe11:When is neo3 gonna be released?

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #97 from megax_pa:Neo 3 is due out in August, correct?
master_trainer_mike says, "We're not gonna tell you!!!!!"
master_trainer_pat says, "No we're not gonna tell you,"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #98 from jeremya0:Does Feint Attack do 10 less damage against a Pokemon with Steel Energy attached, or does SE count as an effect?
master_trainer_mike says, "Counts as an effect that is ignored but only when you are Feinting against the Defending Pokemon."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #99 from yoshi1001:Regarding Pinco, Maybe you guys could put a little chart up on the site?
master_trainer_mike says, "It's not that hard..........though admittedly it is worded a bit odd."
master_trainer_pat says, "That would suggest that we might have something to do with that...you wouldn't believe how tough it is to get stuff changed on our website."
master_trainer_mike says, "It will be explained in the upcoming Pokemon Rulings document"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #100 from espeonx:If you used Sabrina's Alakazam's Psylink power to use the movie promo Mewtwo's Energy Absorbtion, would you attach the energy to Mewtwo or Sabrina's Alakazam?
master_trainer_mike says, "Sabs Alakazam"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #101 from articjedi:Why was cross trainer cancelled?
master_trainer_pat says, "We have other sets to do...like Neo 3."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #102 from megax_pa:regarding question #90, is it true you can search your deck for a butterfree, and "not find one", even though you have them in your deck?
master_trainer_mike says, "No that would be cheating. It doesn't say you "may", you must if you have one in your deck."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #103 from megax_pa:I think Pinco should just be banned to save judges the headaches of explaining it... =P
master_trainer_mike says, "Up next to Ditto, Blaine's Ninetails, and LSSP........."
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes. I'd buy _that_ for a dollar!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #104 from supra:So for Pineco, the first flip just decides the damage you do IF, the second coin flip is heads right?
master_trainer_mike says, "right!"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #105 from peekachoo1:Would this work: You have a Dark Weezing active with 1 grass energy and 2 Metal Energy on your bench. On your bench are 3 Koffings. If you did Mass Explosion, would you do 60 damage with no drawback?
master_trainer_pat says, "Your question is kinda confusing, but I think what your saying is that D. Weezing has 1 Grass and 2 Metal on it."
master_trainer_pat says, "If so your benched would not take damage and D. Weezing would do 60 damage"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #106 from pikascythe11:Why does it take so long for that tournament in San Diego?I mean it doesn't start til December.
master_trainer_mike says, "What do you mean? We need a few months to run the 32 or so QT's."
master_trainer_mike says, "Sheesh, everyone is in a hurry."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #107 from articjedi:Re: #90 what if the butterfree is in your prizes?
master_trainer_mike says, "Then you're fine."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #108 from yoshi1001:If an an attack doesn't place a phyisical device (like a damage or coloring counter), can it's effects be neutralized by GOWing the attacker in all cases?
master_trainer_mike says, "NO!"
master_trainer_mike says, "Depends on where the status effects resides, some are on the Defending Pokemon instead."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #110 from puritys_echidna:oooh... pineco flowchart! brilliant! (starts working on it) ...if heads, go to step 2a... if tails...
master_trainer_pat says, "You liked diagraming sentences in English class, didn't you Ech."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #111 from mewchan:When will the WCSTS format be announced?
master_trainer_mike says, "Later."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #112 from articjedi:so does it matter what order the coins are flipped for pineco
master_trainer_pat says, "YES! IT certainly does!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #113 from brock23:how much damage do you give in rockets' minefield gym?
master_trainer_mike says, "You place 2 damage counters on a heads coin flip."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #114 from mewchan:why did you ban the 15+ in the Qualifiers, if you could just take one trip from the 11-14?
master_trainer_mike says, "Because of what happened in Dallas year one and because this game is geared towards the younger players and because the younger players don't have jobs and can't pay their own way."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #115 from lance313:MTM What's up with the 'dude' today. Been surfin'?
master_trainer_mike says, "Gnarly dude!"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #116 from puritys_echidna:...you mean there's a problem with diagraming sentences...? O_o
master_trainer_pat says, "You _did_ like it!"
master_trainer_pat shakes her/his head.

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #117 from yoshi1001:re: 108 then where do we draw the line?
master_trainer_mike says, "Try reading each card, there is no uber rule, sorry."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #118 from pikascythe11:what do you know about the tournament? tell me all you know.
master_trainer_mike says, "Nah, have to wait :)"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #119 from brock23:how does Erika's Ivysaur's pokemon power work?
master_trainer_pat says, "Just half all damage from attacks while E. Ivysaur is your active."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #122 from soslowpoke:Season 7's Promo is Wooper isnt it?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, I don't think so."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #121 from mewchan:so you're saying just because something that happened in Dallas, that doesn't seem fair to everyone else. And also why don't you just do like a 15-19?
master_trainer_mike says, "Last time! What happened in Dallas is only one of the many reason that choice was made. This game is made for younger players."
master_trainer_mike says, "It is great that older players play as well but they are not the main group as far as marketing goes."
master_trainer_mike says, "The STS's and OP fall under marketing."
master_trainer_mike says, "Also young players have no way of earning the money needed. I had a job when I was 15 and bought many things for myself."
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry, but that is the way it is."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #123 from pokesensei:Of course their is a problem for wizzard`s in diagramming sentences Ech. Have not you scene all they're misprits? hehe :-)
master_trainer_pat says, "Hmmm."
master_trainer_mike says, "At least we have names that make snese ;p"
master_trainer_mike says, "BWAHAHAHA"
master_trainer_pat says, "D'oh!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #124 from pikascythe11:Are error cards supposed to be more valuable?
master_trainer_mike says, "That is up to you."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #125 from peekachoo1:Is the 15+ Qualifiers really banned, or just the free trip is banned?
master_trainer_mike says, "Ok, stop[ all of this silliness."
master_trainer_mike says, "The QT's primarily exist so that younger players have a chnace to earn a trip to the STS. The STS is open to players of all ages"
master_trainer_mike says, "and has tournaments for everyone. We are pushing for there to be open age side events at the QT's as well but they are basically"
master_trainer_mike says, "just sanctioned tournaments that have a trip prize available for younger players."
master_trainer_mike says, "You can earn DCI points in any tournament just like at the QT's."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #129 from yoshi1001:Re: 117 That's the problem: Magby is negated, but Smokescreen isn't(?), while Mega burn is. I don't see how rulings can have integrity in this case without a rule.
master_trainer_mike says, "The game isn't made for this level of scrutiny. We have said this for 2 years now."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #131 from soslowpoke:what's OP?
master_trainer_pat says, "Organized Play."
master_trainer_pat says, "No, I don't think so."
master_trainer_mike says, "Ok gang, all questions about the QT's and 15+ players are being deleted. This is not the forum for this discussion. This is here as a part of customer service and for rulings."
master_trainer_mike says, "You alreday know the answer so why keep bringing it up?"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #133 from brock23:do you need a certain amount of badges to be in the super trianer showdown?
master_trainer_mike says, "No you don't. It is a great big free event for anyone that comes :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #137 from puritys_echidna:wait a minute... who's name doesn't make sence?! mine or sensei... cause if it's MINE... �_�
master_trainer_mike says, "well if the shoe fits :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #140 from peekachoo1:I promise this is the last time, but I'm still confused, is there going to be tournaments for the 15+ without the free trip?
master_trainer_mike says, "That is a fine question. It will be up to the TO's but we are STRONGLY pushing them to run all ages side events."
master_trainer_mike says, "Most of them did last time and we are providing a lot more support and information to improve on the process."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #139 from soslowpoke:Hahahaha it is Smoochum!!

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #141 from pikascythe11:Could you bring a badge book instead of badges at the sts?
master_trainer_pat says, "No, I don't think it is."
master_trainer_mike says, "You don;t need any badges or badge books at the STS. Just bring yourself, your deck, and have fun :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #142 from yoshi1001:Re: 129: I'm obsessive- but then, I have a teenage sister, so why would I expect logic from anyone?
master_trainer_mike says, "Well, have you ever considered cutting down on the caffeine? ;)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #143 from pokesensei:Is it possible for a store to be named for a QT that isn`t yet been considered or is it too late?
master_trainer_mike says, "We have contacted all of the locations that will be running them this time though not all are confirmed as of yet."
master_trainer_mike says, "All details should be on the web site next week."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #145 from michel1be:when will the official rule book be published ?
master_trainer_mike says, "Well it is a collection of all the rulings from the chat that I have saved as well as what Team Compendium has saved (Thank you guys!)."
master_trainer_mike says, "It should be available on our web site soon"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #146 from yoshi1001:Actually, I did just come back from a trip where I had almost nothing to drink but Iced tea after iced tea...
master_trainer_mike says, "Well, after getting kidney stones form drinking far too much soda lately, I would recommend being careful there........."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #147 from pikascythe11:will there be another sts at the "QUEEN MARY'?
master_trainer_mike says, "There are no plans for any further Pokemon events at the Queen Mary. It was a fun place but too small."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #148 from brock23:How does charity work?
master_trainer_mike says, "Frequently asked for any uses for this card, here are some suggestions. Reducing the amount of damage done so an attack can get past Mr. Mime's Invisible Wall"
master_trainer_mike says, "Pokemon Power; if you are attacking a Pokemon with some sort of Strike Back ability (like Rocket's Hitmonchan) you might want to reduce the amount of damage"
master_trainer_mike says, "done to exactly what you need to avoid taking excessive return damage, etc."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #149 from jeremya0:Just out of curiosity; are there going to be any special Promos available if you collect all the Indigo and Johto badges?
master_trainer_mike says, "Nope, sorry."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #151 from michel1be:will this collection of rulings be the official rules in the DCI tournaments ?
master_trainer_mike says, "Yes they will. But keep in mind that it can evolve from time to time (new sets, new rulings, etc.)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #152 from peekachoo1:re: 145, So the rule book will be an online thing?, not something in a real book in a store?
master_trainer_mike says, "It will be available to download off of our web site."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #153 from espeonx:Will you guys ever have a mid-west STS?
master_trainer_mike says, "No plans to do so."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #154 from yoshi1001:So regarding attack effects and GOW, we'll have to ask you for each card?
master_trainer_mike says, "Read each card, if it refers to the Defending Pokemon then Gusting the attacker does NOT remove the effect."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #155 from jeremya0:Are maple bars the favored snack food of Weedles, or glazed doughnuts?
master_trainer_mike says, "I prefer chocolate frosted donuts myself."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #156 from mewchan:will the Qualifiers and their locations be announced at the end of the chat again?
master_trainer_mike says, "Sure :)"
master_trainer_mike says, "Though keep in mund that this is only a partial list. The full list will be on our website sometime next week."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #157 from soslowpoke:If I said hi to you at GenCon next week would you know who I am ?(as in on the chat)
master_trainer_mike says, "Just mention your online name and yes we would know. We get to meet many of you at these events."
master_trainer_mike says, "Always fun toi put a face to the words :)"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #158 from pkmnx:Re: the charity thing: works great in getting past gold berries too!
master_trainer_mike says, "True! Great idea!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #159 from yoshi1001:Will the rulebook also include explanations behind each ruling (or at least some of the tougher ones?)
master_trainer_mike says, "Not really. There is not an inherent logic structure in many cases. Don;t hurt your noggin' trying to find one."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #160 from michel1be:will there be donuts on sale at the STS in San Diego ?
master_trainer_pat says, "If we have anything to say about it, yes!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #161 from yoshi1001:re: 154 are there any other notable exceptions?
master_trainer_mike says, "You will not get a general ruling from me on this. You actually have to read each card."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #163 from soslowpoke:There is no chat next week right?
master_trainer_pat says, "Right. No chat next week."
master_trainer_mike says, "Ok here is the partial list of QT's alreday confirmed again."
master_trainer_mike says, "Many bothans dieds to bring you this info...blah blah blah"
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Eugene OR "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/8/01 SF Bay Area CA "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Denver CO "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Houston TX "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/29/01 Dallas TX "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/14/01 Kansas City KS "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Minneapolis MN "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/29/01 Chicago IL "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 Memphis TN "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/20/01 Atlanta GA "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/22/01 Orlando FL "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/29/01 Raleigh NC "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/16/01 Roanoke VA "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/14/01 Washington DC "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 Philadelphia PA "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 New York NY "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/13/01 Syracuse NY "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/28/01 Boston MA "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/14/01 Toronto ON "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/6/01 Las Vegas NV "
master_trainer_mike says, "9/15/01 Salt Lake City UT "
master_trainer_mike says, "10/27/01 Albuquerque NM "
master_trainer_mike says, "And there will be several other locations listed on our web site (inlcuidng another one or two in Canada) next week."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #166 from unown_master:Re: Q163 - Why is there no chat?

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #167 from yoshi1001:no chat due to gencon, right?
master_trainer_pat says, "Right."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #168 from soslowpoke:So should I bring a Rocket On! Format(with Discovery) deck just incase I get to battle you? Any other decks with formats I could bring?
master_trainer_pat says, "Sure, if you want. I honestly don't know how busy it will be, but that's what will determine whether or not I can play."
master_trainer_pat says, "I won't bring any open decks."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #164 from pikascythe11:You have got to tell me about the tournament in San Diego! My friends are counting on me to get the latest info!
master_trainer_mike says, "wait and see"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #165 from mewchan:how many players does a DCI tournament have to be for the organizer to play in?
master_trainer_pat says, "between 8 and 16 players and then you would use the 3 judge system"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #173 from pikascythe11:where is Gen Con?

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #169 from espeonx:Whats gencon?
master_trainer_mike says, "BTW, you CANNOT LIMIT the number of players in a tournament to 16 or less JUST so you as the TO can play in it."
master_trainer_pat says, "Gen Con is the biggest game convention on the planet, it's held in Milwaukee, WI"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #170 from peekachoo1:Can you try to make the next ECSTS at the Meadowlands again?
master_trainer_mike says, "Too far in the future to know."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #171 from yoshi1001:Travel safely!
master_trainer_mike says, "Thanks!"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #176 from soslowpoke:Will Harry Potter be on display at GenCon?
master_trainer_pat says, "Yes, we will have it for sale there...we just got a box today and we're all playing rabidly. It's really fun!"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #172 from puritys_echidna:no chat? ah well.... just another week to plot reve... i mean have a nice trip. >:D
master_trainer_mike says, "thanks?"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #174 from lance313:Re the 'Rulings Guide' include just chat rulings, or will it include results of R&D/WotC rulings meetings as well, as preiviously indicated by DMTM?
master_trainer_mike says, "It will also include results of R&D rulings, it will contain every ruling we have so far"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #175 from rocketelectabuzz:is there any special format for the qts(i might have missed it just got here)Thank u for the raleigh QT, I love u guys!
master_trainer_mike says, "Wait and see! HAHA!"
master_trainer_mike says, "hee hee"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #177 from pkmnx:Re: an earlier chat: hey, any sign of life from prop 15/3 since that rock fell on it?
master_trainer_pat says, "Hmm..hasn't moved yet. I'm pokin' it with a stick."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #183 from puritys_echidna:btw, great job on Harry Potter! it looks great! Love those 3D Holos. :D
master_trainer_mike says, "Thanks :) They do look cool huh?"
master_trainer_pat says, "Yea. Way cool"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #178 from pikascythe11:You have got to tell me about San Diego. I have no patience dude?
master_trainer_mike says, "Sorry, all details will end up on the web site when they are ready."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #179 from peekachoo1:Re: 165 Whats the 3 judge system?
master_trainer_mike says, "It is explained in the Universal Floor rules on our web site."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #184 from soslowpoke:How much is the Harry Potter TCG?

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #182 from articjedi:with Harry potter cards coming in, will pokemon slowly be phased out by stores/
master_trainer_pat says, "It will be priced similar to our other TCG's and no, Pokemon will still be a lead product for us."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #180 from soslowpoke:Can I trade you for any promos at GenCon? I'd want season 7's promo...
master_trainer_mike says, "Maybe, if we have the time."

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #181 from soslowpoke:Will the Space Weedle be at Gen Con?
master_trainer_pat says, "Nope"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #185 from puritys_echidna:yeah, except pure won't give it to me! she's already laid claims to it and Norbert.
master_trainer_mike says, "sorry :)"

master_trainer_pat presents the speaker with question #187 from peekachoo1:Is Harry Potter geared toward younger players?
master_trainer_pat says, "The game is easier to learn than Pokemon, but the difficulty slowly ramps up over the first couple sets, so hopefully it will appeal to a broad age group"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #188 from puritys_echidna:hmmm.... also since no chat next week i'll have to find some other way to show you my Pineco Flow Chart....
master_trainer_mike says, "Thanks....."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #190 from rocketelectabuzz:will we be able to use japanesse cards if the have an american counter part like jap.steelix and usa stelix
master_trainer_mike says, "The normal rules apply that we have required for 3 years now."
master_trainer_mike says, "You MUST have an english version of the card outside of the deck for translation purposes."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #191 from soslowpoke:Which versions of Weedle and Scyther do u guys like to sign the most?
master_trainer_mike says, "They all rock!"
master_trainer_pat says, "Yea."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #193 from pikascythe11:what is a SPACE WEEDLE?
master_trainer_mike says, "Check out the 3 masters web site at http://home.earthlink.net/~seawolven"

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #195 from articjedi:is there going to be another project for a national landmark?
master_trainer_mike says, "Uhh, Dark Apprentice Steve still owes a landmark made of Meowths as his Dark Master test."
master_trainer_pat says, "DASteve says to say hi, By the way..."

master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #199 from pkmnx:Re: #191: I think mike does a better job on discovery weedles(with the hair and everything)
master_trainer_mike says, "Thanks :)"
master_trainer_mike says, "Ok, thanks for coming! See you in 2 weeks!"
master_trainer_mike says, "We will NOT be here next week, we will be in Milwaukee at Gen Con running the Pokemon Gym."
master_trainer_pat says, "Hope to see you at Gen Con if you live in Wisconsin and can come out and make it."
master_trainer_mike says, "Say hi!"
master_trainer_pat says, "Go Mariners!"
master_trainer_pat says, "Bye"
master_trainer_mike says, "Bye."